RFID Chips In Cards

[karaokehstess33]

Chris,

For starters, many different states are trying to pass bills to put chips in driver's liscenses (California is a huge one). Also, the big fuss is also about putting RFID chips in your passports. This will let anyone in another country have the ability to know you are American, just upon walking past you. There are many consumer advocate groups out there fighting against both of these issues. MBNA bank have RFID chips in there cards right now, called PayPass to be used at Raven's Football games and from what I read, at the Eagle's games too.

For more info, look on the web for Caspian, huge anti-RFID group. Again, I see great potential for this technology, but not at the possibilty of invasion to my privacy.

Angie

[Chris_Salyers]

So I was right you are currently just taking peoples money based on fear. Your invention is based on a theory. Privacy is a huge issue regarding RFID. But don't scare people into buying your tin foil identity protector.

Tell the truth it is ALL IN THEORY you trying to capitalize on fear. There are dozens of easier ways to get your personal information. Your license plates on your cars, your cell phone number, even your child¡¦s report card. If someone wants your information they WILL get it.

This also confirms my belief that you do not understand how RFID works. Exactly how will people walking around in another country know you are an American by an RFID chip in your passport. Are there going to be hidden readers in walls and every time you walk by a speaker will yell AMERICAN!!! Give me a break. How do you currently travel to other countries? Do you not go through customs? Also I can¡¦t understand why you would fear to be fingered as an American by an RFID chip, people around the world have no idea how we talk, act, or look.

Getting to your credit card with MBNA¡K.. For one you don¡¦t know the details so why are you badgering the company. I am in no way affiliated with any credit card company, I only owe them money ƒº. You have to sign up for speed pass, Mobile Gas stations have it. And yes it has an account number attached to it. JUST LIKE ANY PIECE OF ID YOU HAVE!!!. Do you know what the difference is between losing your wallet and losing you speed pass is??? If you loose you wallet ANYONE can copy down your personal information. If you loose your speed pass its A LOT more difficult to get the information. For one all that is on there is an account number. The would-be thief would have to have a way to READ THE TAG let alone cross reference a huge database and pull your info. I¡¦m not saying its impossible because I know its not. But if your telling me that carrying a wallet covered in foil is safer than carrying an rfid card in your wallet to pay for football tickets and buy gas, your on crack.

The Caspian manifesto is just like dozens of other paranoid rants. It takes a true problem ¡§Personal Security in RFID¡¨ and makes into a propaganda laced issue. If you look at the issues at hand logically yes there are some proposals that may not be good for our personal identification protection. But there are a lot that are. Please don¡¦t spam your propaganda around to scare people into buying Wallet Guard. You sound like an intelligent person, use that intelligence to help fix the problem. Not scam money off of people and create paranoia.

[wsteeves]

I normally stay away from these topics due to their heavy handed political ramifications. Opinions of technological social impact will either be overwhelmed by mass social acceptance or manifested due to mass social rejection of technologies in the end game. Where mass social acceptance occurs, such negative opinions of technological change do serve a purpose of limiting economically driven abuse by overzealous adopters of the technology in question.

A quote by George Soros comes to mind based on the continuous mis-statements of both sides of this privacy issue:

"The open society is based on the recognition that we act on the basis of imperfect understanding and our actions have unintended consequences"

That is highly relevant here. Chris is correct in that the effort to obtain RFID data in its current state is hardly worth the effort since there are so many easier methods of stealing private information. Furthermore, RFID based data is essentially worthless until it is tied to access to normally secured databases of private companies given permission by users to store that information.

In the end, the market will give permission for how that RFID data is stored, accessed and used on tags or there won't be a market for RFID related to direct consumer interaction. The adopters of RFID will respond as such or go out of business. Those of us who advocate privacy can only educate the consumer on the risks of how RFID is being used, what personal data is accessible via realistic means by those with criminal intent and how this could impact them in the future as technology changes. The consumer must decide if this defined risk is OK or not.

By creating misunderstandings in extremist arguments, privacy advocates lose credibility in the end utlimately resulting in those "unintended consequences". Even as an RFID professional, I am very much against certain RFID activities going on now but supportive of the greater good that is also running in parallel activities in this field. The arguments I have seen coming out of the privacy advocates relative to this field are all talking in circles and very much out of ignorance of the real capabilities of RFID. A lot of this talk is in futures and is terribly misleading to the uninitiated. This leads to equally inaccurate responses from the opposition only creating confusion and thus a complacent mindset about the whole issue.

There are privacy holes in every technological innovation as well as mainstream technologies - hence the rapid rise in ID theft this past decade. Focus the privacy effort on database access which includes tag content. It is ultimately database access, access authentication and irresponsible managment of that data that remains the real issue here. If you are personally worried about being tracked in some way, then throw away your cell phone, don't use credit cards, don't carry RFID devices and don't drive your vehicle in cities with video license plate ID, never write a check and burn all your trash. These are choices you have. Choices that are counter to the social norm, but choices nonetheless.

[Dafuco0901]

Thanks to the article, Now there is more reason to comment than ever before! Everyone should participate. I am incorporating what your wrote to our project!
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